topic Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games? in XZ Series

Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

Eambo — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 12:34:27 GMT

Hey all!

I recently got the XZ2 and, with videos, have been fairly unimpressed by the dynamic vibration system. I downloaded some games to try it out with as I figured it might be a better experience there - but to my surprise it does not trigger, and the volume controls show no sign of it being able to be enabled within games.

Has anyone managed to get this working in games? If so, which ones, and how?

I've tried Final Fantasy XV Pocket Edition and Sword Art Online so far to no avail.

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

kms108 — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 12:56:06 GMT

I have it working on tsum tsum, just press the volume control, and you will have a slide bar to enable it.

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

Eambo — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 13:01:47 GMT

Thanks for the info! I just installed Tsum Tsum out of interest (the Disney app?) and found some things pretty peculiar:

- During the opening "video" I had a dynamic vibration slider, but it showed for "ff15 pe" - which was closed.

- After the opening video, the slider disappeared (doesn't work beyond the video)

- Restarting the app, it shows again - but only during the video...

Edit: Screenshots added to show examples ^_^

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

kms108 — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 14:57:06 GMT

Once in tsum tsum during game play, just use the volume rocker and a pop up shows with volume and the DVS. it should work, i have no problem with it.

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

kms108 — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 14:59:38 GMT

If you need to see if it's working properly, try using angry bird, its a app recommended by sony, that what they test it on.

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

Eambo — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:01:29 GMT

Thank you for attempting to help so far 🙂

I've just got off the chat with Xperia Support, and unfortunately they informed me that gaming is not a supported function of the Dynamic Vibration System:

THIS is the link in question, where it mentions:

@kms108wrote:
The Dynamic Vibration feature enhances your media experience by adding synchronised vibration when you watch videos or listen to music on your device.

I pointed out that there are numerous references to games on their official site, but was pretty much told the spec sheet says it doesn't support it, so they don't support it.

This was one of the "cool features" that sold me on this phone, so I'll probably return 😞 It sounds like it may work in some applications, but is not officially supported and may be a hit-and-miss kinda thing.

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

kms108 — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:04:12 GMT

Would this be considered as false advertisement.

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

Eambo — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:08:57 GMT

I'm not sure if support are misinformed and the feature is buggy, or it's "best effort" and "will kinda work sometimes". From the reviews I read (granted, third party) Sony apparently stated that there's no special features required or retrofitting of applications - it'll "just work":

This is also why the system is so versatile – it doesn’t need a new audio format or special support from game devs, Sony has done the heavy lifting. It helps that the stereo speakers on the XZ2 are more powerful than their predecessors.

The main thing I like to do with my phone is play games, and the enhanced haptic feedback sounded like something pretty cool. If it's an "Angry Birds and some other" exclusive feature, however, I have no real interest in it.

When trying it with videos, it enhanced very little and just felt random - I felt like games were the most natural medium for it to shine, and apparently it's not officially supported there =-/

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

kms108 — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:20:58 GMT

I don't bother with it, it's just a gimmick, and will fade with time.

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

Uliwooly — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:51:20 GMT

@kms108 @Eambo

I'll escalate this, I don't see it so much as a gimmick, at least not while playing games but time will tell

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

NunoSEN2 — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 16:36:05 GMT

Hi @Eambo;

I don´t have the XZ2 but this is just a guess having in account the other sliders, have you tried when the DVS slider appears in the intro of the games pressing the "off" to see if DVS turns on.

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

Eambo — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 16:43:19 GMT

The DVS doesn't seem to do anything unless that slider is present. As soon as it disappears, no haptic feedback 😞

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

NunoSEN2 — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 16:46:57 GMT

@Eambo;

But when it apears have you tried touching the "off" to see if it changes to "on"? Also there are some conditions that turn the DVS automatically off, please read also here:https://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/xperiaxz2/userguide/volume,-vibration-and-sound/

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

Eambo — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 16:49:11 GMT

Ah I see what you're saying. Yes it is on the "normal" level and is working fine in audio/visual apps, such as YouTube - it is just games it doesn't play nice with.

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

Jonas — Thu, 03 May 2018 11:50:30 GMT

Hi @Eambo, sorry for the late reply to your post.

The Dynamic Vibration System (DVS) analyses audio data and lets you feel the action in your hands when playing a game or watching a movie or video.

The Dynamic Vibration System is designed to work with any application that uses the normal audio path. If, for example, a game app is designed with a different audio path, the Dynamic Vibration System will not work for it.

Have you had the chance to try these games, or any other games lately and how did it go?

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

Hilarious — Mon, 07 May 2018 14:23:31 GMT

Huh,😑 Thanks to U, im almost buying it. Just planning to buy xz2 for gaming PUBG/fortnite/ffxvPE because that dual vibration feeling ,. Guess what, again sony very disappointing..

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

aaronbs — Mon, 07 May 2018 18:44:02 GMT

Sorry, i don´t understand what is "audio path"? Can you explained for not native English?

Can you say me any game that the DVS works?

Thanks

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

Uliwooly — Mon, 07 May 2018 18:56:42 GMT

@aaronbs

https://source.android.com/devices/audio/terminology

Audio Signal Path

Audio signal path terms relate to the signal path that audio data follows from an application to the transducer or vice-versa.

transducer

Converts variations in physical real-world quantities to electrical signals. In audio, the physical quantity is sound pressure, and the transducers are the loudspeaker and microphone. For details, refer to Transducer.

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

Jonas — Tue, 15 May 2018 12:16:14 GMT

@Syaf1, I'm not quite sure that I understand what you mean. The Dynamic Vibration System works with games, as long as the game is developed to use the normal audio path. If you are unsure if the games that you are looking to play is developed this way, check with the developers. You should be able to find a contact email address at their page in the Google Play store.

@aaronbs, Please see @uliwooly's reply, he beat me to it!

I asked my colleague that plays a lot of games and Sniper 3D works fine with this feature, in case you want a game to test with!

I hope that helps!

Re: Dynamic Vibration System - not compatible with games?

aaronbs — Tue, 15 May 2018 16:31:58 GMT

Hi, thanks for the answers. I try whit 2 sniper 3D but don´t works. Can you give me a link to this game?

I think that i dont know how put on the DVS