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Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

Buzzchris — Sun, 27 Oct 2019 11:36:57 GMT

So I've had my Xperia since 4th Oct and I'm on the verge of sending it back 😞😞

I love the size....shape.....form factor.....screen.....stereo speakers.....battery life (the phone needs time to learn your habits)

I'm not loving the poor signal I get from the handset....if I'm driving or on a train I'm hard to get good signal to stay connected. It like everyone around me is fine but I'm the odd one out in a group of people.....I can't google something or find directions when I need to.

SONY!!!! You need to blow the other phone makers out the water with your camera tech within Sony......you could do far better....let us have multiple options/settings

the camera lags......slow to save images.......freezes and hangs and now I'm getting black banding on my photos. I've not had it a month yet!!

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

rmark1104 — Mon, 28 Oct 2019 06:45:25 GMT

I completely agree with your comment and the sad part is I can't return my product.

The camera is annoyingly laggy even compared to my old iPhone 7 plus which the Xperia replaced.

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

RottenFoxBreath — Mon, 28 Oct 2019 08:50:03 GMT

The camera does have a manual mode, with all the settings.

The banding issue, is that not down to the lighting, like poor quality led or florescent lighting.?

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

Buzzchris — Mon, 28 Oct 2019 12:01:59 GMT

The banding issue is like flickering on a screen....they travel up and down the picture. I did try to upload the examples. Black bands at the bottom then middle and then top, never the same point or location.

Auto mode doesn't have HDR option.....option to change saturation in auto? Quick settings!! Sometimes you miss the shot when manual, having to fiddle with the settings. All my night/ dark pictures only come out decent if in manual......auto has no hope of catching it.

What you definitely take/see on screen is never as saved the same. I'm guessing the processing it taking place before it's saved. Ive missed A LOT of pictures or moments when the camera froze or hangs while saving the image.

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

Jonyny — Mon, 28 Oct 2019 15:58:36 GMT

Buzzchris

do you get the same kind og banding when you take photos outside in daylight?

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

Strampke — Mon, 28 Oct 2019 21:20:54 GMT

Does the 55.0.A.11.25 software update clear up the banding?

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

Buzzchris — Tue, 29 Oct 2019 11:12:22 GMT

So I'm on the latest firmware....55.0.A.11.25 so not sure if the older version had the problem. I'd literally only had the phone a few days and it set up, it updated automatically.

The banding did happen in daylight over a week ago, I just thought I took a bad photo and deleted it.

I seem to take more pictures in manual mode to get a decent picture. People have camera phones for ease to catch the moment. I have to get my phone out go through the manual settings and take the picture.......oh I missed it 😞 !!......... And it's still saving the crap picture I took while getting a pint!!

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

Strampke — Tue, 29 Oct 2019 11:36:28 GMT

To be honest @Buzzchris , for making photographs I would use a decent DSLR camera, for pictures a smartphone.

Ever since my first Sony smartphone Xperia T, I am amazed of the picture quality. I mean pictures.

The nice thing abot smartphones is that one has them at hand, always.

Point and shoot.

Always handy, always helpfull.

Do you use Lense a lot?

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

Buzzchris — Tue, 29 Oct 2019 11:47:07 GMT

All my pictures are using a phone. I ditched my DSLR.....so many more editing options on a phone....or using a app on the device. Not having to use a laptop to do it. Makes it much easier and quicker to upload....share....send!

Phones will continue to get better and the cameras on them too. Sony could do so much with a "camera phone" how in 2019 you have a lens with 3200iso when the competition have beyond 100000iso.

4 days left of my return policy .......I'm struggling to find a reason to keep it. I don't want to carry a phone and camera around. I want 1 device the fits in my pocket and this one was on the verge of it!! Phones are getting far to big.....even the Xperia 1

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

Lord_viridis — Wed, 30 Oct 2019 10:25:39 GMT

Black bands flickering on images are 100% the fact you're in a room with fluorescent lighting.

The lighting flickers at 50hz and your camera is picking up the lighting difference during the phase.

And every phone, camera, video recorder on earth does it.

Google florescent lighting beat effect to learn more

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

Lord_viridis — Wed, 30 Oct 2019 10:26:32 GMT

@RottenFoxBreath wrote:
The camera does have a manual mode, with all the settings.
The banding issue, is that not down to the lighting, like poor quality led or florescent lighting.?

Yes it is.

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

Buzzchris — Wed, 30 Oct 2019 15:21:27 GMT

I can't agree with that....never happened before on a long list of phones I've had ....the actual restaurant was candle lit and no electrical lighting.

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

RottenFoxBreath — Wed, 30 Oct 2019 16:22:31 GMT

Well the photo says otherwise, IMO.

And fully candle lit, I doubt it, it would seem there was a sub par lighting system in action.

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

HereForTheXperi — Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:44:45 GMT

And...? Cameras are supposed to counteract this banding effect with software. That's what they're designed to do.

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

Buzzchris — Thu, 31 Oct 2019 12:35:37 GMT

Exactly!!!....never had other camera phones do that.....I wouldn't expect it from a company with so much imaging experience!!

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cycad — Fri, 22 Nov 2019 14:40:51 GMT

Today I encountered the camera app error where I kept reopening till it works again. In between, I've lost some shots. Kind of frustrated. Photo saving after some shots were getting slower and slower till the app hang up. Restarted the phone. Xperia 5 is my 3rd Sony phone after the XA1 and XZ1 compact. It seems like the camera core software is still status quo. Competition is far ahead in this department and the Xperia's app is still mediocre. Why is there no HDR in auto mode? Not smart enough? Why is the focal length arrangement so user unfriendly? 1x, 2x then wide? Why can't you be like the rest which is intuitive from wide, 1x then 2x? And why can't I tap left of right to switch immediately instead of tapping 3x if I want to start with wide? Just are only some of the issues I highlighted. I can go on all day. Is the Alpha team really working with Sony mobile? Or it's just to use the name for better sales?

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

cycad — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:21:04 GMT

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Two-years-behind-the-curve-The-Xperia-5-continues-Sony-s-tradition-of-making-poor-camera-phones.444152.0.html

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

MmZs — Thu, 05 Dec 2019 07:23:56 GMT

I've got the same problem with camra!

Very unknowing lags during taking photo in aouto mode!

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

Lucius_Xperia5 — Thu, 05 Dec 2019 18:11:13 GMT

I wish I saw this sooner , and could tell you guys that , the problem you guys are having might be due to your SD card writing speed.

If you guys are saving your photos to your SD card , the writing speed of your SD card will play a sigificant role on the speed your picture will be saved.

Re: Loves and hates but Camera issues!!

Gilgameshuk — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 01:32:58 GMT

I agree 100%

CONTROL TEST, High brightness LED and UV reactive Lighting

No problems (Xperia 1) of self scratch built wc computer inside a coffee table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waRkTg1NP_U

Another video on my Sony fan channel: LOTS of types of lighting, if you bare with the video to the shop called NEXT notice the flicker and yet some other lighting that is not the case?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJrheASTBwo&t=260s

Sony XZ3 SCAN RATE with certain types of lighting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9fzqPip-3w&t=6s

This is also a good test, this is my trip when i was on DUBAI to visit wife: notice the AL RASHID SHOP sign is flickering but the one next to it is not? @ 0 mins 20 seconds and RwandAIR at 1:15

Another walk around Dubai, mostly clear FLICKER from 1:23 to 1:54: If there were an issue with the phone that it would have the smae issue on all types of lighting.

But higher quality lighting in the mall of dubai and this is the ULTIMATE test as there are many differing lights here, not one flicker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUmUetTRucQ&t=5s

Proof that the Sony support guy (Viridis)is indeed correct. Incidently my friend has a Google PIXEL 3and 3a he said he has the same issue with certain types of lighting. I also had hte samer thing on the XZ Premium and the Z5 Premium, as well as my daughter's Sony XA2. This indeed NOT the fault of the phone but the LOW scan rate of the lighting is SLOWER than the scan rate of the phone or something,